Zanimljiva crtica iz povijesti:

http://www.bjjee.com/art...-trained-jiu-jitsu-judo/ 

Ubica, kasap, teorije urote, dole kapitalizam, fuj Amerika,robovi, masoni, partizani, četnici... Ako ne odma, onda za nekih 20ak postova.

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Da, dosta tema ode u smjeru koji opisuješ.

Ipak, mislim da ova neće, naprosto zato jer ne vlada veliki interes za ovakve teme sa povijesnom tematikom vezanom uz bor. sportove.

i to sto kazes, a i dezurni trollovi su valjda na odmoru od foruma, pa je bozji mir i tisina :)

ovo je fascinantno sto je roosevelt pisao... za njega se znalo da je otkacen i da je bio vrlo svestran tip, bavio se lovom, boksom itd... . jedino sto je bio mason... 😃

i to sto kazes, a i dezurni trollovi su valjda na odmoru od foruma, pa je bozji mir i tisina :)

ovo je fascinantno sto je roosevelt pisao... za njega se znalo da je otkacen i da je bio vrlo svestran tip, bavio se lovom, boksom itd... . jedino sto je bio mason... :D

Počelo je.

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i to sto kazes, a i dezurni trollovi su valjda na odmoru od foruma, pa je bozji mir i tisina :)

ovo je fascinantno sto je roosevelt pisao... za njega se znalo da je otkacen i da je bio vrlo svestran tip, bavio se lovom, boksom itd... . jedino sto je bio mason... :D

Theodore Roosevelt je bio pozitivna ličnost.
posljednji američki predsjednik.
poslije njega dolaze masoni.
svi redom poslije njega su upropastili ameriku i svijet. posebno Woodrow Wilson koji je možda i ključan za bankarsko ovladavanje svijetom.

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zadnji OT od mene:

procitao sam da roosevelt JE bio mason. ili imas informacije koje upucuju da nije?



btw, slazem se da je bio pozitivac, on mi je jedan od drazih licnosti iz americke povijesti.

zadnji OT od mene:

procitao sam da roosevelt JE bio mason. ili imas informacije koje upucuju da nije?



btw, slazem se da je bio pozitivac, on mi je jedan od drazih licnosti iz americke povijesti.

možda si čitao za drugog Roosevelta. on je bio negativac.
Theodore je bio zadnja linija obrane ustava od bankarskih elita.
nakon njega amerikom više ne vlada ustav i White House nego Wall Street i bankari.
mnogi od tih velikih predsjednika prije nejga su ubijeni od bankara. kao i njegov prethodnik McKinley jer nisu dozvolili izglasavanje zakona o federalnim rezervama tj. centralnoj banci.

nakon njega i kad je taj zakon donesen amerika više nije slobodna zemlja nego je bankari drže u šaci i manipaliraju inflacijama i krizama.

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uostalom nisu svi masoni negativni.
i Thomas Jefferson je bio mason i veliki čovjek.

amerika je osnovana od masona.
svi osnivači su bili masoni.
neki od njih bili su uključeni u zlo ali su se okrenili na stranu dobra i borili se protiv tog zla.

i spas je bio u tome da su neki od njih bili veliki ljudi i da su to šta su znali prenosili na mlađe naraštaje američkih političara
koji su često po cijenu vlastitog života odolijevali više od 100 godina bankarskim zlikovcima.

ali kada su došli mediji i masovna propaganda, više nisu mogli.
budale su jednostavno nadglasale pametne amerikance.

prekretnica su Taft i Woodrow Wilson koji su upropastili ameriku.

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ok thx na info. ajmo ne vise zalazit u OT, da ne sjebemo ovaj thread, no ovo sto si napisao je interesantno.

meni je posebno interesantno bilo ovo kada je pisao o sparingu onog JJ ucitelja i hrvaca:

“………I still box with Grant, who has now become the champion middleweight wrestler of the United States. Yesterday afternoon we had Professor Yamashita up here to wrestle with Grant. It was very interesting, but of course jiu jitsu and our wrestling are so far apart that is it difficult to make any comparison between them. Wrestling is simply a sport with rules almost as conventional as those of tennis, while jiu jitsu is really meant for practice in killing or disabling our adversary. In consequence, Grant did not know what to do except to put Yamashita on his back, and Yamashita was perfectly content to be on his back. Inside of a minute Yamashita had choked Grant, and inside two minutes more he got an elbow hold on him that would have enabled him to break his arm; so that there is no question but that he could have put Grant out. So far this made it evident that the jiu jitsu man could handle the ordinary wrestler. But Grant, in the actual wrestling and throwing was about as good as the Japanese and he was so much stronger that he evidently hurt and wore out the Japanese. With a little practice in the art I am sure that one of our big wrestlers or boxers, simply because of his greatly superior strength, would be able to kill any of those Japanese, who though very good men for their inches and pounds are altogether too small to hold their own against big, powerful, quick men who are as well trained.”

ok thx na info. ajmo ne vise zalazit u OT, da ne sjebemo ovaj thread, no ovo sto si napisao je interesantno.

meni je posebno interesantno bilo ovo kada je pisao o sparingu onog JJ ucitelja i hrvaca:

“………I still box with Grant, who has now become the champion middleweight wrestler of the United States. Yesterday afternoon we had Professor Yamashita up here to wrestle with Grant. It was very interesting, but of course jiu jitsu and our wrestling are so far apart that is it difficult to make any comparison between them. Wrestling is simply a sport with rules almost as conventional as those of tennis, while jiu jitsu is really meant for practice in killing or disabling our adversary. In consequence, Grant did not know what to do except to put Yamashita on his back, and Yamashita was perfectly content to be on his back. Inside of a minute Yamashita had choked Grant, and inside two minutes more he got an elbow hold on him that would have enabled him to break his arm; so that there is no question but that he could have put Grant out. So far this made it evident that the jiu jitsu man could handle the ordinary wrestler. But Grant, in the actual wrestling and throwing was about as good as the Japanese and he was so much stronger that he evidently hurt and wore out the Japanese. With a little practice in the art I am sure that one of our big wrestlers or boxers, simply because of his greatly superior strength, would be able to kill any of those Japanese, who though very good men for their inches and pounds are altogether too small to hold their own against big, powerful, quick men who are as well trained.”

I stoljeće kasnije američki hrvači šutaju japanske "kante" po ringovima. Bio je Teddy dalekovidan, tad je u glavi imao ideju MMA, a žalosno je da je i danas mnogi nemaju.